From a friend - on Russia and Israel
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whocares1970If this is really so, I love Israel even more. And as far as Russia is concerned... well, you know.
Some of us read about the Russian ship Arctic Sea that was allegedly hijacked by the opirates and, more than two weeks later, was discovered in an ocean far away from Russia. I read in Russian sources that all sailors from the ship wrre arrested by Russian authorities and completely isolated from the media, reporters etc. References to unnamed governmental sources said this was what happened:
Officially, the ship was supposed to bring timber to one of central American countries. In reality the ship had sophisticated military equipment that could be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons, Russia was going to deliver that equipment secretly to country X. Country Y that expected the Russian military equipment to be used against Y, sent its agents that boarded the Russian ship almost immediately after the ship left the Russian port and was in international waters close to Sweden. The captain of the ship called Russian authorities telling them what happened. Instead of asking Sweden to stop the ship, which could be done easily, Russia preferred not to react. Agents of country Y removed all military equipment from the ship, reloaded it on a few big ships from country Y, and then left the ship. After that almost the entire Russian Navy was ordered to capture the Arctic Sea. The main goal was not to let any foreigners approach the Russian ship and learn the truth. R
ussia as well as countries X and Y prefer to keep the incident secret. X and Y were not identified in the news of one of very few still remaining Russian news agencies not controlled by the government yet.
I guessed that X was Iran and Y Israel. Today Debka.com confirmed my guess. They say (again, with references to nonindentified Russian sources) that the Arctic Sea was bringing 300 missiles SS-300 to Iran. This missiles are able to carry nuclear warheads. Israeli envoys (including President Peres of Israel) asked Russian government to cancel these deliveries -- without success. When the ship was in the international waters in the Baltic Sea, Mossad agents boarded the ship. In the subsequent days they were involved in removing Russian missiles and transporting them to Israel.
Some of us read about the Russian ship Arctic Sea that was allegedly hijacked by the opirates and, more than two weeks later, was discovered in an ocean far away from Russia. I read in Russian sources that all sailors from the ship wrre arrested by Russian authorities and completely isolated from the media, reporters etc. References to unnamed governmental sources said this was what happened:
Officially, the ship was supposed to bring timber to one of central American countries. In reality the ship had sophisticated military equipment that could be used in conjunction with nuclear weapons, Russia was going to deliver that equipment secretly to country X. Country Y that expected the Russian military equipment to be used against Y, sent its agents that boarded the Russian ship almost immediately after the ship left the Russian port and was in international waters close to Sweden. The captain of the ship called Russian authorities telling them what happened. Instead of asking Sweden to stop the ship, which could be done easily, Russia preferred not to react. Agents of country Y removed all military equipment from the ship, reloaded it on a few big ships from country Y, and then left the ship. After that almost the entire Russian Navy was ordered to capture the Arctic Sea. The main goal was not to let any foreigners approach the Russian ship and learn the truth. R
ussia as well as countries X and Y prefer to keep the incident secret. X and Y were not identified in the news of one of very few still remaining Russian news agencies not controlled by the government yet.
I guessed that X was Iran and Y Israel. Today Debka.com confirmed my guess. They say (again, with references to nonindentified Russian sources) that the Arctic Sea was bringing 300 missiles SS-300 to Iran. This missiles are able to carry nuclear warheads. Israeli envoys (including President Peres of Israel) asked Russian government to cancel these deliveries -- without success. When the ship was in the international waters in the Baltic Sea, Mossad agents boarded the ship. In the subsequent days they were involved in removing Russian missiles and transporting them to Israel.
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Date: 2009-09-10 02:21 am (UTC)Одна незадача - корабль покинул финский порт.:) Хотя можно развить тему в направлении финского антисемитизма возникшего в годы их сотрудничества с Шекельгрубером.:))
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Date: 2009-09-10 03:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-10 05:06 am (UTC)* :)
[Unknown site tag]papasha_mueller wrote:
Sep. 7th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
Не совсем так.
Надо бы писать :
"если бы Русские были мудаками, они бы отправили свои ракеты в Иран не через вшивый Алжир, а через Северный Полюс. И не из Финляндии, а из Японии. Тогда нашей газете выпал бы шанс написать об этом еще несколько раз, что подняло бы тиражи, и позволило бы нам купить в редакцию глобус, хотя бы маленький. К сожалению, этого не произошло. Ох уж эти русские."
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Date: 2009-09-10 03:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-11 03:13 am (UTC)А, в целом, правильно ПМ сказал: тем кто всерьёз думает, что РФ возит контрабанду в Иран через Балтику, да ещё и загоняет судно с контрабандной С300 в порт одной из стран ЕС и НАТО, нужно, для начала, купить глобус и записаться на приём к врачу.:)
*1.Морем - через Каспий. Сушей - через Азербайджан.
2.Никакими законами не запрещена продажа С300 ИРИ(это не наступательные вооружения). С какого хрена Россия вообще стала-бы вести тайком то, что можно продать в открытую?:) С300 иранцам не продают не из-за дружбы с Израилем, а потому что договориться страны не могут; камень преткновения - каспийский шельф.
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Date: 2009-09-11 01:42 pm (UTC)Не oчень. Если тaм в Финляндии тaмoжня тaкaя же, кaк и здесь... :)
Вoпрoс вoт в чем: a зaчем oни, сoбственнo, oстaнaвливaлись в Финляндии? Мoжет, суднo стoялo нa рейде, тaк чтo егo вooбще никтo не прoверял.
Нo Вы, вoзмoжнo, зaметили, чтo я нaчaл этoт пoст слoвaми: "If this is really so". Вoзмoжнo, этo непрaвдa. Вoзмoжнo, этo не вся прaвдa. Не исключенo, чтo речь идёт не o C300, a o чём-тo другoм, ненaзвaннoм. Я не oчень дoверяю рoссийскoму прaвительству (и aмерикaнскoму, кстaти, тoже, кaк мoжнo зaметить из мoих пoстoв).